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Post by spacecase0 on Feb 2, 2017 11:40:21 GMT -5
I was thinking about the homopolar generator, and there is plenty of theory, but this needs tested, and I don't need a high voltage power supply to do it
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Post by gambeir on Feb 10, 2017 14:58:34 GMT -5
I've had a lot going on and haven't done anything really but don't want you to think I've lost interest. Between reading Clif's reports, the daily battle to keep informed of events, and to accomplish the necessary daily tasks keeps me on the side tracks most of the time.
That's the way it goes for me. I hit creative spurts and then there's the doldrums for unknown lengths of time.
What's depressing to me is to know that this technology is out there; that they have it and have had it for a long time. Just has to be the case with all these high speed vehicles flying around caught on video's.
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Post by gambeir on Feb 10, 2017 16:08:26 GMT -5
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Post by gambeir on Feb 10, 2017 18:03:26 GMT -5
This I'm posting so that it doesn't get lost. The information is related to the ARV and the Central Column. Will try to get back to it to tie it together Electrical Charged Superfluid Plasma Accretion disk Generalized Beltrami flow -- a model of thin-disk and narrow-jet system - inspirehep.net/record/1190496/plots1.bp.blogspot.com/-TdZ0p3MVROo/U0NtpjJHicI/AAAAAAAAGAo/iVLQxZcBfQU/s3200/Skitch.pngFrom this site. holographicgalaxy.blogspot.com/2014/04/kapitza-dirac-superfluid-jet-powered.htmlSuperfluid earth labs have discovered everything real that a phony black hole is supposed to be doing: (1) Superfluids absorb, trap, capture, or slow light speed way down in what is called a "Bose Einstein Condensate" which is a misinterpretation term used exclusively in relativity for laboratory superfluids. (2) Superfluids form an insulating double layered "concealing accretion disk" where originate bipolar jets that carry electric currents and form Birkeland currents that shape the spinning galaxy. (3) Superfluid helium forms spiral arm Kapitza filaments where stars form inside. (4) Spinning superfluids carry the angular momentum in quantized vortices that carry electric currents that produce associated cosmic scale magnetic fields and vice versa.
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Post by spacecase0 on Feb 12, 2017 1:29:15 GMT -5
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Post by gambeir on Feb 12, 2017 1:41:56 GMT -5
After the longest time I finally got accepted to their forum.
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Post by spacecase0 on Feb 12, 2017 12:41:00 GMT -5
I joined that forum a very long time ago, can't remember how hard it was there is another energy forum as well, and not sure i joined that one, think I just read that one
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Post by gambeir on Feb 12, 2017 17:03:10 GMT -5
I did go and look at the ultrons that this guy was working on. Quite interesting, but I know how dangerous it can be when I find something else interesting and so I managed to pull myself from this and returned back to the ARV and the research which I knew I needed to do on that. www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20473-walter-russel-utron-research.htmlI took time and went back over the video where Mark posted some of the drawing he had made, as well as looking closely at another image, which isn't very large but includes some notations he's made since the original, and that is available in his new series which I am going through now. www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGHByKQ9LFYThere are many fine details not previously noted. I will make some more refined sketches and scan them for posting. *Note here we need to revisit this material. We don't have this correct right now in our minds as to how it is laid out. Throughout the machine there is a matrix (which means cast compound of multimedia materials) and this is the quartz matrix. In the so-called capacitors on the base, each pie shape is opposed by this matrix, that is, that these are not pie shapes of copper alone with the quartz matrix between each layer, rather every other pie shape is copper, and those between are pie shapes of the quartz compound! First there is one of copper and then the next is a matrix of the quartz compound. The matrix is itself about 3/4th of an inch thick, or .75, while the copper is noted to be about 1/2 inch, or .5 inches. * In the original notes these pie sections of the capacitors are noted as being greenish in color. This is like a sawtooth square wave pattern. where between each tooth in the squares lies the quartz matrix compound of electo-optically active material. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/Waveforms.svg/400px-Waveforms.svg.pngRecall on the other forum I posted about a home brewed casting material for high heat. Can't recall what it's called right now but it's there in one of the two sections dealing with UFO's and the ARV. I will have relocate that, but it had to do with making your own refractory matrix. Liquid glass or something like that I think it was called. It's on Youtube. However it could be that the casting matrix is as simple as polyester resin/fiberglass since that has a greenish blue tint. And there is also the history: Fiberglass, or polyester resin, was a new invention and a "space age material" (Key word of the epoch) at that time. It almost makes sense that this is what they might have used. It could be that simple and also because it can be used to make a structure which is flexible and yet structural as well. I'm inclined to think it might be just that. Fiberglass would encase and bond the entire pie structure into a single structural unit. I am strongly inclined to think the casting matrix is polyester resin which is fiberglass. Almost positive it would not be epoxy for several reason which I won't go into right now. The circular ring which forms the walkway on the upper half that can be stood upon is shown and described as an antenna. It too consists of alternating layers, with the copper about 1/4 inch, or .25, while the matrix quartz layer is shown as about 3/8th of an inch thick. Don't know how many layers this is but it's is several layers, more than two. The described antenna is not like the pie shaped capacitor plate system. It is a series of flat rings, with copper alternating with the quartz compound beneath then another layer of copper and so on. Returning back to the base, the so-called capacitors, there are arrows shown which indicate the flow of energies (we don't yet know if these energies are purely electrical or include others incited by the matrix, which would seem logical quite frankly). These alternate, that is they oppose one another between layers. It appears like the first top layer is moving clockwise when viewed from above, while the next two lays beneath go the opposite direction, and then that is reversed in the following two layers, with the final bottom layer again moving in the opposite direction so that both top and bottom layers are feeding energies in the same direction/polarizations. Don't know how many layers there may be to the capacitor section, and it could be that every layer alternates in opposition to each other, too hard to tell. The matrix material we now know is supposed to be quartz, herkimer quartz, and quartz comes in right and left hand patterns. But it isn't just quartz that seems capable. There is a field called Optical Mineralogy which deals with the crystal patterns inside quartz and mica which has to do with Electromagnetic Propagation in Anisotropic materials. A Magneto-Optical Effect is a key word to search in this area, as is Anisotropic materials. Evidently, if I understand this correctly, the legendary invisibility cloaks may have been made from left handed Anisotropic Quartz or Mica flakes, and this is almost certainly why we even had legends of invisibility cloaks long before any modern ideas began to develop surrounding that field, but it seems that this idea was known by a few evidently in the geologically inclined and I think it has a lot to do with this machine and why it works. That is, the left handed nature of magneto-optical effects of quartz must be an enabling part of the design. Guessing but I think it is. Key words for researching Magneto-optical effect gyrotropic/gyromagnetic T-symmetry Faraday Effect Permittivity Dielectric Tensor - Covariant Transformation Wave Plate - Circularly Polarized Light -Quarter Wave/half wave plate Birefringent Materials Zeeman Effect Startk Effect Optical Insolator Roughly following the Faraday Effect leads to the Voigt Effect to theory of Dielectric Tensors to Eigenvalues/Eigenvectors
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Post by spacecase0 on Feb 13, 2017 1:28:55 GMT -5
fantastic summery.
here is a thought brought up by what you said the magnetic coil just outside the central spinning disk was called an antenna let's think about what tesla was playing with, the first half of the tesla coil was driven by pulsed DC, and this makes time fields (or whatever name is popular at the moment). the second half of the tesla coil was the receiver of this energy (antenna), but he could also charge insulators at a distance with it and other things if there was no secondary coil I know form what experiments I have done in the past that counter rotating electrostatic fields make a strong time field (even if I could only make it random) so it makes sense that the large flat coil of wire in the ARV is an antenna to receive some of that power when I had all this set up before, I never once checked the output of the coil I had around the opposite spinning fields this means that the counter rotating fields are the first step to build. I wonder if cardboard would work as a test as opposed to polyester resin around the copper, that way I can take it apart and change things inside it to test I can measure a 0.1% change in gravity, so it is not like i need it to float to see what factors are what all my test ideas come back to me not having a high voltage power supply anymore, so I guess that is next on my list (past all the daily farm work)
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Post by gambeir on Feb 13, 2017 4:34:44 GMT -5
fantastic summery. here is a thought brought up by what you said the magnetic coil just outside the central spinning disk was called an antenna let's think about what tesla was playing with, the first half of the tesla coil was driven by pulsed DC, and this makes time fields (or whatever name is popular at the moment). the second half of the tesla coil was the receiver of this energy (antenna), but he could also charge insulators at a distance with it and other things if there was no secondary coil I know form what experiments I have done in the past that counter rotating electrostatic fields make a strong time field (even if I could only make it random) so it makes sense that the large flat coil of wire in the ARV is an antenna to receive some of that power when I had all this set up before, I never once checked the output of the coil I had around the opposite spinning fields this means that the counter rotating fields are the first step to build. I wonder if cardboard would work as a test as opposed to polyester resin around the copper, that way I can take it apart and change things inside it to test I can measure a 0.1% change in gravity, so it is not like i need it to float to see what factors are what all my test ideas come back to me not having a high voltage power supply anymore, so I guess that is next on my list (past all the daily farm work) Ya know there's no reason right now to not try almost anything. They were casting the quartz in some kind of matrix and I think it was done to act as an insulator as well as a structural part to hold the whole thing in one complete piece. Other than the fact that the copper needs to be insulated from one another there's no reason that you can't use whatever works. If cardboard will work then that would be fine for experimenting. Obviously there's going to have to be some experiments to deduce what is doing what. I totally agree, we aren't the dept of defense with an unlimited budget, so any way we can do it and not lock the materials in would be desirable until it's understood what they are actually doing, and how they need to be arranged. Yes, by all means try anything that enables you to change things and doesn't set them in stone. That's like a one time shot and we don't want that until we understand more. Here I did a couple ruff sketches. The image will delete after a day. These are just ruff sketches but it's what I've gotten off the video's. May help to see what I'm blathering about. I choose this way to display images since the other hosting services won't delete even when asked. unsee.cc/dosazune/unsee.cc/begurino/So what I see is that I need some copper plate, some quartz in left hand and right hand crystal patterns, and then I am going to have to make a high voltage generator. Oh, and also mercury acts as a crystal evidently. I've got some researching to do on that. Good observations:\ "here is a thought" "the magnetic coil just outside the central spinning disk was called an antenna let's think about what tesla was playing with, the first half of the tesla coil was driven by pulsed DC, and this makes time fields (or whatever name is popular at the moment). the second half of the tesla coil was the receiver of this energy (antenna), but he could also charge insulators at a distance with it and other things if there was no secondary coil ." Hmm... yes and what is the reason for these pie shapes really? Seems like that would be some way to induce pulses. Now the energy flows in counter rotation in that pie capacitor thing. It may also be happening in Cycloids in opposition to each other. I don't know why but there is somehow a link to cycloid. It might be because these energies create Microwave or higher frequencies depending on the crystal that the energy flows through. I'm guessing of course, all over the place with this and what it's doing, but tossing out thoughts because there's got to be more to the shape of this thing. It's not accidental and it's not simply all about firing off one piece or not to enable control. There's more going on I am quite sure. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CycloidThis all, as you say, has to do with time rate variance and that pie shape is all about rate flow modulation by analog methods, as would have been the case for the time period it was made. This goes back to the post about the shape of the pie sections and metering. Just guessing on this, but sense that somehow there is a possible connection.
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Post by gambeir on Feb 13, 2017 6:01:52 GMT -5
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Post by spacecase0 on Feb 13, 2017 11:59:35 GMT -5
your 2 drawings, could you email them to me ? my username on every forum is the same and also at gmail I can't zoom in or save them on that web link.
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Post by gambeir on Feb 13, 2017 22:39:14 GMT -5
your 2 drawings, could you email them to me ? my username on every forum is the same and also at gmail I can't zoom in or save them on that web link. Done, you should have them as attachments. Pretty ruff sketches but should help. Notice that the copper pies are actually all separate from each other and isolated by the matrix of cast quartz. Then the center column is supposedly a clear tube on the outside with windings of copper surrounding it. Inside are two other tubes. Each has strings of copper spiraling in opposite directions and these tubes are made from the cast matrix of quartz as well, so that each string of copper is also isolated from each other. Each one of those tubes then rotate in opposition to each other. flowing between all the tubes is this silvery like fluid, which is presumed to be mercury. Mark said he thought it was a mercury gas but I am not at all sure about that idea. Might note here as well that those center tubes would be most easily fabricated out of fiberglass. I'm pretty experienced working with composites and making those wouldn't be that hard. Messy, as fiberglass always is, but not that difficult. The main thing right now, I think, is that we have a much greater understanding, and that with some experimenting and measuring we can most likely deduce the correct way to feed energy in to the capacitors, or copper pies and measure the subsequent changes. I'm just trying to figure out what was the primary theme they used to imagine the machine. That is, if you look at the ARV's Guts it reminds me of a planetary body like earth. There's this center core (Center Column). It's got these twisted strings of copper wires running in opposition and rotating against one another. Reminds me of poles, or brikeland currents. I think they used the idea of Brikeland currents as the model for the center column, the spinning disc, if it spins, might represent the earths rotation. See what I'm saying? They had some kind of model in mind which directed the construction. That's why I keep thinking that the dis is an accretion disc. It seems like it's sucking in energy from the universe via that antenna. The energy is expelled through the center column to the capacitors? Any idea's about that?
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Post by gambeir on Feb 14, 2017 4:50:33 GMT -5
OK been off reading some today trying to make sense of this damned thing, and it looks to me like we are back to the T-Townsend Brown Machine. The reason I think that might be the case is that I found this website where the guy has designed a dielectically driven cube. Immediately I thought of the Borg Cube. You might also. It sort of strikes me a bit suspiciously that the site appears abandoned. Not all the images and so forth work, but it's still up and running for some reason. Like why? The system he designed seems to me to be entirely workable. The cube thing is also quite borg looking and the work dates back to 1996. That seems the other day to me but it's like 20 years ago! The site is called; "Institute of Atomic-Scale engineering." There he shows a design for a dielectic powered thingy. The idea seems to be built upon the concept of dielectric permittivity in magneto-optic effects in minerals; hence quartz. Take a look because the page is dated and some of the images don't show up. www.iase.cc/mntcell.htmEssentially I began by following the path of dielectic minerals So long story short. I sort of ended up going from the Kerr Effect, to the Faraday Effect, to dielectric permittivity. I followed that up with doing an image search with these words "dielectric permittivity spectrum." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto-optic_Kerr_effecten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerr_effecten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_effect dielectric permittivity en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permittivityen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto-optic_effectand if you go here you scan down the article to references. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto-optic_Kerr_effectAnd here are the references linked to the Kerr Effect article. Faraday effect Fresnel equations John Kerr Thin-film optics Voigt Effect Zeeman Effect So once more all these things are seemingly related. The only new one I've noticed is the Fresnel Equation, and that might prove interesting. Read the first paragraph here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PermittivitySo what I'm getting out of all this is that when the copper pies get a charge, and it's probably a pulsed charge BTW of very high energy and can be either polarity, evidently, well that induces this alignment of charges in the adjoining pie matrix of quartz crystals. So it seems that the induced polarity could be driving the device just as the T-Townsend Brown saucers were driven. Now there's probably some reasons for the layering, the independent pie sections, and it has to do with the pulse of very high power evidently, so there may need to be a continual force of polarized atoms in the matrix pies, and to do that, to sustain the force of the polarized matrix quartz pies, there has to be a lot of them and probably layers of them, and that is what is drawn in the ARV: This is what I'm thinking right now. That's about as clear as mud, but getting a bit tired, I know you've got some of your own ideas. Maybe the charge just carries itself across to the next layer and the layers underneath are each going off in opposition so that there is a balancing going on. Who knows if I'm right on that, but so far this is the image I'm beginning to get as to how the pie plate base works to induce a lifting/driving force. Now I don't know how clear I'm being so no worries asking anything at all. What seems to be the case is that certain minerals can handle very high charges, mica/quartz, and that their other quality is the crystal patterns seem to facilitate this "permittivity" in the atomic structure of the material such that it can rapidly align the polarized charges in the matrix. Thus you have the Positive and negative charges opposite and this then seems to mirror the sort of system T. Townsend used.
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Post by spacecase0 on Feb 14, 2017 11:27:24 GMT -5
got the email, thank you. will try and retrieve my spinning field device from storage today and send you pictures
ever look at the electrostatic lifters ? (built from T. Townsend ideas) they are a fun toy, but don't work so well they have a large effect when you first turn them on, but that fades fast (less than 1/30 of a second from my tests) if you stack them they work better. T. Townsend made disk versions that tracked a circle and they worked much better that way. so just looking from that start point it seems as if switching them on all the time very fast would make it work better and might be that they tried to electrically simulate a physically orbiting device. so might be why they decided to make it a rotating pattern on many segments and the counter rotating thing might just be to get rid of the side effects of one field spinning (maybe it made the ship spin (as in reports of clearly broken UFOs))
will think about the other things and comment on them later.
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