Greetings from the land of lightweight trees Feb 14, 2017 16:51:44 GMT -5
Post by gambeir on Feb 14, 2017 16:51:44 GMT -5
will try and retrieve my spinning field device from storage today and send you pictures
ever look at the electrostatic lifters ? (built from T. Townsend ideas)
they are a fun toy, but don't work so well
they have a large effect when you first turn them on, but that fades fast (less than 1/30 of a second from my tests)
if you stack them they work better.
T. Townsend made disk versions that tracked a circle and they worked much better that way.
so just looking from that start point it seems as if switching them on all the time very fast would make it work better
and might be that they tried to electrically simulate a physically orbiting device.
so might be why they decided to make it a rotating pattern on many segments
and the counter rotating thing might just be to get rid of the side effects of one field spinning (maybe it made the ship spin (as in reports of clearly broken UFOs))
will think about the other things and comment on them later.
Yea, I think we are following the same train of ideas. This is what I was thinking they were doing. They stacked a bunch of pie shapes, each one is like the electrostatic lifter, and yea I know they lost their lift quickly, so because of that there are layers, and the charges are fired off in counter rotation, which BTW is what the drawings show, so if you've got three or four opposed pulsed lifters continuously going, because the charges fire then go to the next section, and so on round the plate, but always maintaining the balance, then you should have a continuously propelled capacitor lifter.
Doesn't that sound almost like the forklift thing Clif was talking about in the latest Alta Report? He also said that this thing could lift a lot but only for a short time. Well the power needs would explain that I think, and who knows what level of understanding they are working with, but whatever this electric lifter will turns out to be, it's probably not anywhere near as advanced in the use of dielectric electro-optical materials, and I think that those have to be the real enabling part of this machine, along with how to create a continuously circulating pulse charge that powers that kind of electrogravitic vehicle.
I don't know if we got the ARV figured out or not, but I think we are figuring out how to at least create a sustainable electrogravitic lifter.
Talking about the pie shapes that are just made from the quartz crystals; there's something there that happens which isn't clear to me yet. What I understand so far is that the Permittivity of those crystal filled pies are what truly "enables" the lifting force, and it's the copper pies that induct the polarization when they are themselves hit with a high energy pulse. Evidently it isn't important whether or not the copper plates are above or below the quartz pies, either way all that's important is the polarity of the charge applied to the copper piles/pies. That would explain having the alternating, above and below copper plates/pies, and how they interact with the cast quartz ones.
You know more than I do about some of this but I sense you're right about this being a DC High Voltage pulse. Isn't that what you were first thinking was involved in all this?
Seems like this is all starting to make sense. Another thing worth pondering is that each of these pies all point towards this center column. So you've got a point at one end and a broad base at the other, and that's essentially has some qualities like some of the Townsend designs.